Newbie and first question


I didnt know this club exsisted to be honest, glad i know now lol.
Im Adrian and from sunny Dorset. I own a 1990 'G' 2.8TD EL 7 seater, its used as a main drive for the week commuting to work and for towing the trailer for trips to the dump and transporting my boys quad.

First question i have is being a 1990 it does not have the rear roll bar where seat belts are attached to for the rear seats. Question is would a J reg one fit straight into mine so that i can put roller seat belts in the back seat (not the small individual ones) Scratch one-s head

Also is there any of you peeps from dorset here and do you meet up for any events etc

Thats it for now Biggrin

That's odd. I thought all

That's odd. I thought all the LWB's had that bar, from 1st car onward (B reg). Could it have been removed for some odd reason by a previous owner? As the shape has changed little all the way through the range I would have to guess that a later one will fit.

Any veiws expresed in this thread by me are purely from my own experience, and (sometimes) falible memory. Hope my comments help, but please don't take them as gospel.

Any veiws expresed in this thread by me are purely from my own experience, and (sometimes) falible memory. Hope my comments help, but please don't take them as gospel.

Roll Bar

If you have rear seats ,just where do the rear seat belts secure to. ( top/shoulder strap), or are they just lap straps. Mine has the two outer seats locating to the roll bar and floor(shoulder strap)and the center as a lap strap only with the latches fixed to the floor.

Thought all LWB Fourtraks were fitted with roll bar due to composite roof.!!!!!!

Edward (ews) '92 Fourtrak 2.8 TDX

Roll bar or not

As far as I know the early fourtraks came with lap belts only in the rear seats and the roll bar was fitted to get around legislation when 3 point belts became compulsory, I am sure Assasin will be able to confirm whether this was the case or not. Although it looks like a rollbar it is really just a seatbelt mounting point, if you have ever dismantled one you will know that the thin walled tubing and 3 piece design is too lightweight and flimsy to support the weight of a rolling car (although it will obviously be better than just the roof alone). It is possible to fit the roll bar to the earlier cars but the rearmost nearside mount is a tube welded into the body of the later cars that the rollbar slots over and bolts into. The other three legs bolt into captive mounts on the wheelarches and offside floor so it is possible to drill through and bolt down with high tensile nuts and bolts using spreader plates on the underside of the body if the captive mounts are not there. It also has two brackets which bolt into mounts in the roof above the rear door and a further two bolts on each side just under the side windows which again fit into captive mounts.
I have fitted one to the rear of my SWB soft top Fourtrak as I fitted a forward facing rear seat for my kids and wanted 3 point belts for their car seats however I ended up shortening the bar and welding it onto a custom made subframe which is then bolted through the floor and wheelarches at six seperate points.
Hope this helps


The roll bar was used as a way of getting around legislation and used to anchor seat belt mountings of the three point type.
Foreign markets had predominantly soft top variants, this so called roll bar was simply the bar which was used to hold the roof structure up. This explains why, in essence; it is so flimsy, and why it was used as it was a standard production part.
People such as me and Dave would no more call this a roll bar, nor would we use the seat belt mounting points to mount one.