Are my brakes faulty?


Hello everyone,

I'm new here and an utter car ignoramous to boot, but I'll explain the problem as best I can.

It first happened when the snow got bad - I was coming down a hill, tried to slow down but just slid. I was pressing the brakes hard but was just getting a loud grinding sound and a scraping/juddering which I could feel through the pedal. I tried pumping the breaks, which helped to slow me down, but if I held the brake pedal down, the grinding returned and I kept moving. I eventually steered into the earth bank at the side of the road to stop.

This morning, I had to beak hard because a moron in a lorry seemed to think he needed the entire road. However, the same thing happened as before - the juddering/grinding, and me still moving.

If I brake gently, everything seems fine, but if I brake hard, I slow down a little, then the gringing/juddering kicks in and I just seems to roll. It feels like the wheels turning but the brakes just aren't catching - that's what it feels like, but not being able to see, I could be wrong. It cerainly doesn't sound like I'm skidding, which is why I presume the wheels are still going around.

Sorry for the simplistic explanation, but I do hope someone can tell me if I have a problem or not! Oh, and it's a 3 yr old Sirion that had a service in October, if that helps.

Thank you!

Get it checked.

Could be one of many problems. I suggest you get someone to check the brakes. To do this all the wheels must be removed and the pads/shoes examined for wear, damage or leaking fluid. The symptoms sounds life threatening .... I would not drive your car in its present state!


2003 Sirion SL 1300. And I love it.
Don't like the new shape much.

As you are not "very good" with cars.
I would suggest you get someone else to watch you as you brake hard - Somewhere safe of course.

Your car has ABS (Antilock Brake System) and beleive me it makes a hell of a racket if if comes on in the snow. (It makes a lot of noise anyway)

You should never pump the Brakes of a car with ABS Blum 3

You do still move - it depends on the speed your doing and the road conditions.
But ABS should stop you much more quickly than no ABS.

But ABS doesn't seem to work very well if it is icy.
I presume this morning was icy as well. - It was here.

You need someone with ABS to have a go. It wouldn't surprise me if it is working perfectly - Beleive me - When it comes on it sounds like hell !! But it is probably working fine.
Just takes some getting used to.
Of course I could say - Slow down a little - so when you brake you don't have to brake as hard - But I wouldn't say that on here would I Wink

Cheers, Bob F.

2003 Sirion Rally 4. And I love it.
Don't like the new shape Sirion much.Sorry.

Mate, that'll just be your

Mate, that'll just be your ABS. The grinding noise is the noise it makes when ABS kicks in. 99.9% of the time when you break ABS is not working. And sometimes, especially in very icey conditions, the stopping distance may be longer then that of a car with no ABS. This is because the ABS system is stopping them locking, and therefore the wheels keep turning.

1985 Charade Turbo Cabrio

Thank you everyone! I have

Thank you everyone! I have been assured that it is indeed the ABS working as it should.

And now I feel very silly.

Still, what's a relief! I couldn't bear to think of poor Muffin having her wheels pulled off. Thank you again for your responses!


ABS brakes kicking in on dry tarmac

I have the same problem on my 98 terios and suspect my ABS breaking system is faulty - they kick in on even dry tarmac and can cause my breaking distance to increase significantly. Not sure what to do about it - is it likely to be the sensors or the control unit?

Terios Brakes.

2004 Sirion 1300 4 Track. And I love it.
Don't like the new shape much.

Do you mean when you hammer the Brakes on in the dry?
Or just normal Breaking?

But to be honest yours does sound more like a fault.
There are sensors built into every brake.

You need some one to have a look at it with you who has ABS.

Whereabouts do you live.

Some one on here might be close to you.

Cheers, Bob F.

2003 Sirion Rally 4. And I love it.
Don't like the new shape Sirion much.Sorry.

The YRV Turbo can do this as

The YRV Turbo can do this as well. But they have EBD as well as ABS and can make the sound as you describe.

'53' Plate Yellow YRV Turbo/ '53' Plate Black Subaru Impreza WRX STi PPP

'12' Plate Mazda MX-5 2.0 litre NC 3.5 Venture Roadster 160BHP
'15' Plate SEAT LEON 184 FR TDI. 240BHP/500nm Torque.
Past: '53' Plate Yellow YRV Turbo Approx. 150BHP