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Having sorted out the rear suspension problems on my YRV Premium I am seeking advice on two other problems encountered in 8 years of ownership - front discs and exhaust.

1. Due to poor ventilation the inner faces of the brake discs suffer from premature corrosion, leading to an MoT warning after 3 years and probable MoT failure after 4 years.

As OEM discs are very expensive I'm seeking advice on alternatives costing less than around £50 the pair. There are plenty around but maybe quality is questionable. Any experience out there, especially if the alternatives last more than 4 years?

2. After about 4 years the exhaust pipe rusts through an inch or two in front of the rear silencer. OEM systems are very expensive, so does anyone know of a sensibly priced aftermarket silencer (say less than £100)that will push over the rusted end of the front pipe?

Discs & Exhaust !!

2003 Sirion SL 1300. And I love it.
Don't like the new shape much.

The Sirion has pretty much the same running gear.
I am just about to change the Discs and pads at 72,000 miles.5 YEARS OLD.
This is the first time I have had to change them but it would have been folly to just replace the pads as the discs are on there way out and would have ripped the new pads apart. Sad
I have used NIPPARTS Discs.
They look pretty good to me and about £60 for the pair - so a tenner more sorry.

The Exhaust is more of a problem. I know someone who used an alternative exaust and it touched all over the place - Bloody useless.And it sounded crap too.

He bit the bullet and bought the real thing £180 for the Sirion.
He has had it on for three years now - No problems so far.

Hopefully someone on here will have some suggestions on the exhaust.

Cheers, Bob F. Smile

2003 Sirion Rally 4. And I love it.
Don't like the new shape Sirion much.Sorry.

YRV Discs and Sirion Exhaust

Hi Tony,
glad you joined, told you its good for info and a chat etc.

Discs for the std YRV's are cheap in comparison to the Turbo although this is made up by the very expensive pads, catch 22.
I may be wrong but alot of Far Eastern discs are all made at the same factory under a different trade name, same quality different price. ADL Bluprint Discs look like OEM, infact most of their Daihatsu stuff has the Daihatsu,Denso, etc brand on it if you look carefully.

Bob,
you can get a Stainless exhaust custom made at one of the Longlife/Wolfrace exhaust centres. Price depends on which one makes it and the tailpipes etc you choose.
I was a bit dissapointed that they chopped the front pipe after the Lambda sensor, obviously the flange and pipe with sensor boss attached was too much for them to do. I know they usualy cut off the mild steel flange and attach to stainless but this was alot more than that. Think the price was £329?? by TonyBanks.co.uk although i was quoted more at £340 by Topgear Stockport but they would have done the Lambda etc, now i know why!
I have a genuine Daihatsu Mk2 Stainless twin pipe rear section that should fit the Sirion, just a small bumper cut out and an easy to do additional hanger point bolted to the chassis to fit.

Cheers, Dave.

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Current- 04 Silver YRV TURBO
Past- 91 Charade GTti, 89 Charade GTti, 98 1.3 Hi-Jet.
A friend in need is a friend indeed, a friend always in need, an Effin nuisance Wink

Discs & exhaust

Bob F. Having googled NIPPARTS I found their online catalogue on the website below.

http://www.buypartsby.co.uk/japanese-car-spares/index.php

They seem to charge £18.25 for each disc. Bit less than your £60 the pair, although I didn't check VAT or postage.

I am drawn to EBC discs on https://sslrelay.com/buypartsby.co.uk/ebc-brakes/ebc-discs-display.php?recordID=2469 at about £100 the pair delivered. They sound particularly good.

YRV Tony

YRV Tony

Discs!!

2003 Sirion SL 1300. And I love it.
Don't like the new shape much.

Aye you are probably right.
But I bought em through a Car Spares Outlet.

Then found out they were cheaper after.

I won't be using that dealer again !!

Cheers, BobF.

ps Stainless steel exhaust sounds a good idea. I wonder if they make one for the Sirion/ Yrv??

Will have to have search around.

2003 Sirion Rally 4. And I love it.
Don't like the new shape Sirion much.Sorry.

Wouldn't you consider Both

Wouldn't you consider Both Brake discs and exhaust perishable items? I know on other cars I have owned that you will go through Brakes and discs due to wear and tear and exhausts, especially the OEM ones will be perishable unless you install a Stainless steel one which is supposed to last the lifetime of the car, I suppose this is down to the manufacturer.

All i can add is what you get is what you pay for. Okay I own a YRV Turbo and don't drive like an angel, but I have taken it upon myself not to scrimp on things such as brake discs. If you want soemthing that won't rust then you are looking at performance parts such as D-Sport front discs that are anti-corrosive, but they are at a premium cost.

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'53' Plate Yellow YRV Turbo/ '53' Plate Black Subaru Impreza WRX STi PPP
130BHP/305BHP

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'12' Plate Mazda MX-5 2.0 litre NC 3.5 Venture Roadster 160BHP
'15' Plate SEAT LEON 184 FR TDI. 240BHP/500nm Torque.
Past: '53' Plate Yellow YRV Turbo Approx. 150BHP

Discs & exhausts

The point is jpor, you don't always get what you pay for. The YRV standard discs are about £300 I think and last 4 years, 30k miles, with my style of driving. My wife's 25-year old Fiat has done 52k miles and still has its original discs, shining bright. That's value for money. The EBC discs for the YRV at about £100 the pair will almost certainly last longer than the OEM discs. Discs at about half that price will probably equal the life of the OEMs. The differences in braking performance of all the discs would probably not be discernable to the normal road driver, that depending more on the pads. Why not seek value for money?

Wrt the exhaust, £300 for 4 years is not good. There are cheaper systems about and would probably last longer.

The intention of my original post was to get positive recommendations.

YRV Tony

YRV Tony

Hi Tony, First off

Hi Tony,

First off appologies if my post sounded negative. Cray 2

What I'm trying to get at is when I read your post, it mentions budgets which okay may not be cheap to most people, but I have read many posts from other people in the past talking about buying gear at below prices that you buy for and expecting it to last a lifetime or there-a-bouts Wink

On a positive note:

As for brake discs. www.japaneazi.co.uk have original Daihatsu brake discs for £152.54 a pair and standard pads for £22.38 a pair for the YRV turbo you may get these cheaper as the YRV premium has smaller brakes;

http://www.japaneazicarparts.co.uk/products.asp?cat=260&pg=2

As for the exhaust I paid over £300 for a full stainless Blitz exhaust system off E-bay and I would expect that to last for a lifetime. If it didn't then I too would complain.

Unfortunately as Daihatsu is a japanease car, you end up having to source the parts from either the local Daihatsu Stealership/Parts department Biggrin or having them come direct from Japan, and for that you pay a premium, no pun intended SmileWink

Your just lucky you don't own a Subaru, now parts for those well don't get me started.... Smile

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'53' Plate Yellow YRV Turbo/ '53' Plate Black Subaru Impreza WRX STi PPP
130BHP/305BHP

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'12' Plate Mazda MX-5 2.0 litre NC 3.5 Venture Roadster 160BHP
'15' Plate SEAT LEON 184 FR TDI. 240BHP/500nm Torque.
Past: '53' Plate Yellow YRV Turbo Approx. 150BHP

Hello jpor.As a lad of WW2

Hello jpor.

As a lad of WW2 I was brought up to economize and not to waste - no matter your circumstances. The result is that I do things that would make purists' toes curl up and drop off.

In the end I bought the cheapest discs I could find on eBay, £35.60
delivered, from Virginautoparts. I expect these discs to last as long as the two sets of OEMs I've had. The discs don't corrode on their outside face, only on the inside face (whatever price you pay for them) and the reason is poor ventilation of the inner face - a design fault.

I can't remember which pad wears most, inside or outside, but it's consistent. The pads well outlive the discs, so I shall use the two thickest pads from my last disc/pad change with the two thickest pads from the current set. All you need to do - and strictly, to ensure side to side balance - is ensure inner pads and outer pads are from the same batch. This is no worse than putting new pads on old discs, which happens all the time.

When I have to buy pads I look for the lowest price of the make of pad that I favour. In the past, some makes of pad were not as effective as others, but that's less so these days.

As an engineer, doing my own servicing once a car is out of warranty, I've treated all our cars in this sort of way, not to mention club racing cars that I have looked after.

So my motto is look for economies where it doesn't matter and pay the minimum price when it does. Save the world and your wallet!

YRV Tony

ADDENDUM

I need to get a life! I dreamt of YRV brake pads last night and this morning looked at the box of part-worn brake pads (see above) given to me by the machanic who changed my discs/pads nearly 4 years ago. My warning dream was true - the inner and outer pads are quite different, so my cunning money saving scheme above is destroyed. Of course all you guys knew that already!

YRV Tony

Not quite a lad of WW2. But Close.

2003 Sirion SL 1300. And I love it.
Don't like the new shape much.

I changed my pads and Discs this morning. Took a couple of Hours as I was not in a rush and I was painting the Calipers Gold (Smooth Hammerite) And also Waxoyling some of the Underside. Blush
Almost ready to fit Brand New Alloys (Waiting for Spigot Rings - First ones sent were wrong)
I have taken a picture of one Disc and set of pads (72.000 Miles)
I am NOT a Gas and Brake man! So nice and steady as she goes!
The discs were shot, and although there was still some decent meat on the pads they have some bad grooves in them.

Any way all changed now and feels good. Smile (Copper Grease etc)

I will post pictures when all is done if anyone is interested.

You know - Before During and after.

Lets see how there wear.. Smile

BobF.

ps - Dreaming of YRV Brake pads !!! Yikes. Biggrin

2003 Sirion Rally 4. And I love it.
Don't like the new shape Sirion much.Sorry.