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Hello there, I have a F20 1.6 petrol 4 speed and want to put a 5 speed gearbox in to it to improve the appalling cruising speed. Does the Sportrak gear box fit?
Many thank.
Hello there, I have a F20 1.6 petrol 4 speed and want to put a 5 speed gearbox in to it to improve the appalling cruising speed. Does the Sportrak gear box fit?
Many thank.
No, its a totally different
No, its a totally different box, you can swap for the Toyota Hi-lux box if you can find one as the early 1.6 engined trucks had a 5 speed box on later models, and they wewre both the F20 engine.
F20 gearbox
Some time ago i fitted a 5 speed box to an f50 to replace a 4 speed box i rember i had to change the rear prop shaft as the five speed box is longer and the box came from an f20.
i changed the bell houseing over as the box is the same apart from the bell househouseing i think that the fourtrack bell houseing is the same as the F50 one so it may be posible to use a fourtrack box on f20 bellhouseing.i have allso fitted a fourtack engine to a f50
gearbox the f50 engine mount fits the fourtrack engine.i know that by changein the engine
mounts on the f20 and the axles you can fit the fourtrack engine and box.
anyway i thought i might pass on some information that may be of help
The 5 speed box you swapped
The 5 speed box you swapped did not come from an F20 as they were all 4 speed boxes, your box must have been a conversion from another Toyota model so it should have the part number on it which may be useful.
Sorry to correct you
Sorry to correct you Assassin, but some of the very last F20's and 50's did come with a 5 speed as an optional extra. It is the same box for both cars, though the bell housing is diffrent.
Unfortunatly a Sportrak box is totally diffrent.
You can fit a later Fourtrak gearbox, as the Diesel box will bolt straight to the F20 bell housing. The 2ltr Petrol box though also needs the input shaft changed over. However this then leaves you with no handbreak, as the later vehicles work on the rear wheels while the F20/50 uses a transmition break on the rear of the transfur.
A frind of mine did bolt an F50 transfur up to a later Fourtrak gearbox, though I can't remember if he had to make any modifications.
You will have to alter the propshaft lengthes, as the transfur sits further back with a 5 speed, due to the extra gear bolting between the gear and trasfur boxs (basicly an overdrive). The later boxes are the same.
Any veiws expresed in this thread by me are purely from my own experience, and (sometimes) falible memory. Hope my comments help, but please don't take them as gospel.
They never came to the
They never came to the European market Nev.
Later models with a 5 speed box were destined for other world markets, and Daihatsu had a habit of bringing in models to the Uk from other markets, the box they used was the Hi Ace 5 box from the van.
Was the Hi ace box the same
Was the Hi ace box the same box then? As I have owned one 5 speed F50, one 5 speed F55 and one 5 speed F20. I also knew of one other 5 speed F50 and one other 5 speed F20 in my area. Mind you I do live near where Daihatsu UK used to be based.
I have also broken more F20's and 50's (as well as one 55)than I care to remember. Some of which were 5 speed. The box's looked identical to me, except for the 5th gear sandwiched between the 4 speed box and the transfur. They also fit straight into the 4 speed car (if you change the props as well).
Any veiws expresed in this thread by me are purely from my own experience, and (sometimes) falible memory. Hope my comments help, but please don't take them as gospel.
Its one of those quirks of
Its one of those quirks of the motor industry Nev. Daihatsu bought engines and gearboxes from Toyota and their products sold well in the Asian and African markets due to the solid construction of the F20/50 and the reliable Toyota running gear. Toyota decided to switch to 5 speed units and stopped production of the 4 speed units leaving a shortage of them for other users such as Daihatsu. Toyota was selling its Hi-Ace vans and Hi-Lux pick up's well and found a massive increase in sales in Europe, they had switched to the 5 speed units to offer the European markets something not found on the traditional European built offerings which all had 4 speed boxes.
Daihatsu had to eek out the remaining gearboxes they had and offered the 5 speed unit as an alternative, especially as they came complete from Toyota as an engine/transmission unit ready bolted together, so they could continue to manufacture enough vehicles to supply demand. Daihatsu even bought all the remaining components from Toyota's suppliers and built the last few 4 speed transmissions themselves.
Sales slumped as Daihatsu had plenty of engines but not enough 4 speed boxes, and it was about this time they embarked on the development of the Feroza/Sportrak as they could utilise the standard Toyota engine/5 speed boxes.
So you agree? There were 5
So you agree? There were 5 speed F20/25/50/55's on the UK market.
Any veiws expresed in this thread by me are purely from my own experience, and (sometimes) falible memory. Hope my comments help, but please don't take them as gospel.