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Do you think this site needs either a FAQ or Sticky Posts thread for questions asked?
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What's legal and what aint ?
HM Customs and Excise positively hate people legally getting away with paying no or reduced fuel duty. It's an affront to their petty money-grabbing mentality.
IMHO their attitude is that you are illegal, they slap a huge great penalty on you, bury you in a mound of expensive red tape and leave you to prove you are innocent (so much for the Magna Carta ! ). Also their lawyers are much more expensive than any you can afford, so Joe Soap loses out again.
OK, it would be unwise to state authoritatively what is legal and what aint because the forum could be sued if it was wrong. However, some statement of the rules would be extremely helpful.
What's legal...
...could be illegal for the rest of us depending on how good your connections are and how much you are willing to pay for legal assistance.
And what is even more disturbing is the fact that major supermarkets take cheap oils of their shelves and replace them with a lot pricier ones as soon as it gets known that we might be using the cheaper oils to run our cars on.So much for the environmental credentials of Tesco, Morrisons and Sainsburys.
I genuinly hope the managers responsible will choke on their next Fat-Cat-Bonus...
Since 30th June 2007, "there
Since 30th June 2007, "there is no longer a requirement to register (enter premises) or pay duty on vegetable oil used as road fuel if you 'produce' (use) less than 2500 litres per year".
http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/briefs/excise-duty/brief4307.htm
1985 Veg oil burning Fourtrak "Rocky".
1985 Veg oil burning Fourtrak "Rocky".
Cooking The Fuel
It would be beneficial to owners, there is much mis-information, and generalisation of information at the moment, this would provide specific information for Daihatsu engines.
Daihatsu specific information would take much of this misinformation, and the generalisations out of the equation, and give owners the correct information to make clearer informed decisions. Much of the misinformation and generalisations come from the fact that modern common rail, high pressure fuel injected, and computer controlled engines will cope with these fuels to a large degree. Daihatsu engines aint these engines, they are basic well engineered simplistic engines with a very low output per litre, this is why they are reliable and robust.
Other problems come from generalisations over fuel types, they are all termed bio fuels, but many owners are using new cooking oil, others use old cooking oil, and some use properly produced bio fuels. With this in mind, we need to differentiate between the types and stop the confusion.
In addition; i think it would be prudent for volunteers to keep a log, this would include fuel types used, mixture, problems, and incurred expenses made against savings.
Wrong place...
I know this is the wrong place to discuss this, but......
I disagree with some of your comments:
"...modern common rail, high pressure fuel injected, and computer controlled engines will cope with these fuels to a large degree" - this is quite often not the case - reading the various veg oil sites, these vehicle's fuel management computers are not programmed to cope with fuels such as veg oil. Also these vehicles tend to be direct injection which again copes less well with poorer fuels than indirect injection (swirl chambers).
"...they are basic well engineered simplistic engines with a very low output per litre, this is why they are reliable and robust." - this is one of the reasons they convert so well, they use the 'old' technology of indirect injection.
Fourtraks use a Bosch VE injector, and from what I've gathered over the years, from various sites, they tend to reliably run off veg oil, unlike some Lucas / CAV systems.
"i think it would be prudent for volunteers to keep a log, this would include fuel types used, mixture, problems, and incurred expenses made against savings" - there are some website which keep track of vehicles (and type of injector pump), mileage and any issues, which is probably the best way in the long to get some idea of the reliability of running off veg oil.
1985 Veg oil burning Fourtrak "Rocky".
1985 Veg oil burning Fourtrak "Rocky".