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Good morning,
I'm on the lookout for a Charade having got myself a new job which is going to involve doing a lot of mileage - the difference between the MPG on my YRV and the Charade will make filling up every week a little less painful (as well as the £100 a year less tax)!
I'm hoping I can pass the YRV over to my partner and sell her Yaris... although I might have a fight on my hands there
I was just wondering whether anyone has any recommendations on places I could look for a Charade - there aren't many about for sale and so any extra places to try would be much appreciated. I've done ebay / autotrader / exhange and mart / motors.co.uk / britolusedcarsearch.com / gumtree / adtrader.
I'm looking for something low mileage and sub-£2000 preferably, and I'm in South Wales although it's likely I'd have to travel if I want to be in any way picky about what I buy!
Thanks
Have you thought about the
Have you thought about the Perodua Kelisa.
You can get Mint condition very low mileage ones for £1200-1500.
And its the exact same car as the Cuore, With the later DVVT engine.
Having owned both a Cuore and the newer Charade (Which is the successor and still called a Cuore in most other countries)
The Cuore is a more fun and a better drivers car, The Charade is more refined but is a little let down in my opinion by the very soft floaty suspension and overlight steering. And a notchy feeling gearchange for some odd reason.
Hadn't thought about the
Hadn't thought about the Perouda - thanks for that. I noticed the notchy gear change when I tried out a charade before buying the YRV - but I've only driven one so I didn't realise it wasn't just a dodgy car!
The Kelisa is rated at 55mpg against the Charade's 58mpg... so not far off. The Kelisa is £100 tax compared to £30 on the Charade though. Hmm. Something to think about definitely.
Having a quick look on autotrader there aren't many kelisas around either - but if I am looking for both then it increases the cars available to me anyway
Also try keeping a lookout on
Also try keeping a lookout on www.pistonheads.com as well. A few Daihatsu's come up for sale on there. At the moment only 3 for sale including a Charade GTTi, I.e the original and best
There has been the odd new 2003-2006 Charade cars for sale. You do know the newer Charade is only a 1.0Litre?
Just had a look on www.parkers.co.uk and a couple for sale at around £2K;
http://www.parkers.co.uk/cars/for-sale/search/used/daihatsu/charade/hatchback-2003/_/sort/lowest/rpp/20/page/1/
Also a new 2005-2010 Sirion 1.0litre is also a £30 a year tax?
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'12' Plate Mazda MX-5 2.0 litre NC 3.5 Venture Roadster 160BHP
'15' Plate SEAT LEON 184 FR TDI. 240BHP/500nm Torque.
Past: '53' Plate Yellow YRV Turbo Approx. 150BHP
Thanks for that - not thought
Thanks for that - not thought about looking there as I'd expect most of the stuff to be performance cars. I am aware it's a 1.0... In fact, I've probably driven 1 litre cars for most of the miles I've done in my life so far, so I'm fully aware of the limitations in performance! I like cars with a bit of character, and usually extremely frugal (that's my half-scottish-ness coming out).
Thanks for the parker's link - had forgotten about there. Luckily I've got until the beginning of October until I start my new job, so plenty of time for going here there and everywhere to find one!
EDIT: Didn't notice the Sirion 1.0l comment - didn't realise they were even available, thought they were only 1.3! If I got a bargain on one the sirion would suit me right down to the ground, I think
Best to avoid a 1.0 Sirion.
Best to avoid a 1.0 Sirion. Only the early Sirions came in a 1.0. They are the exact same engine as the Cuore but over 100kg heavier, and performance/fuel economy does suffer much more.
The Cuore/Kelisa/newer Charades 1.0 actually go quite well, due to the low weight.
Equivilant power/weight ratio to 1.2/1.3's in other brands such as Vauxhauls/ Citroen etc
I have more fun running about in my little Cuore, than I do in the YRV Turbo!
Love the sound of the 3 cylinder, proper Daihatsu.
I made the mistake of missing
I missed this few weeks ago, 7000 miles from new!
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2002-Daihatsu-Cuore-Red-1-0-Petrol-Manual-/221004721270?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item3374e86c76#ht_1057wt_1265
However, Mine was only £550 with 10 months MOT and 8 months tax, 52,000 miles
A little older at 1999 T reg
They really are stunning bargains for basic motoring.
Get 50mpg easy even in towns, 60mpg on a steady run.
Wow - loads of discussion
Wow - loads of discussion sparked! Thanks for all your input. I still quite fancy the charade as I'm guessing it's nippier than the 1.0 Sirion, and will likely be a lot cheaper. I will probably be on the lookout for a while if anyone happens to spot a bargain
Plenty on Autotrader at the
Plenty on Autotrader at the moment. Looking at the specs on parkers.co.uk, the SL appears to be the one to go for
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'12' Plate Mazda MX-5 2.0 litre NC 3.5 Venture Roadster 160BHP
'15' Plate SEAT LEON 184 FR TDI. 240BHP/500nm Torque.
Past: '53' Plate Yellow YRV Turbo Approx. 150BHP
Yep, ideally a low mileage SL
Yep, ideally a low mileage SL at a fair price is what I'm after. Parkers value a 07 plate charade with 50,000 miles on the clock at £2500 from a franchised dealer. You would have thought looking at that that there would be a good chance of getting a nice low mileage one further down the years for well under £2000... just a matter of biding my time for the right one, I am guessing!
The '62' Plate new cars come
The '62' Plate new cars come out in a couple of days, so technically any older car would de-value because of this. So you maybe in luck
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'12' Plate Mazda MX-5 2.0 litre NC 3.5 Venture Roadster 160BHP
'15' Plate SEAT LEON 184 FR TDI. 240BHP/500nm Torque.
Past: '53' Plate Yellow YRV Turbo Approx. 150BHP
The new shape 2005-2010 sirion can be bought in 1.0 litre
The new shape sirion can be bought in three engine variants:
1.0, 1.3 and 1.5 litres.
According to the parkers websites facts and figures the 1.0 litre top spec trim is the SE+
Only downside is that the insurance group might be higher.
Still group C tax (£30) and acclaimed 56mpg.
http://www.parkers.co.uk/cars/reviews/daihatsu/sirion/hatchback-2005/facts-figures/
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'12' Plate Mazda MX-5 2.0 litre NC 3.5 Venture Roadster 160BHP
'15' Plate SEAT LEON 184 FR TDI. 240BHP/500nm Torque.
Past: '53' Plate Yellow YRV Turbo Approx. 150BHP
Ah the new ones yes, But you
Ah the new ones yes, But you wont find one of those easily for sub £2000.
One on Autotrader 05 new
One on Autotrader 05 new shape, 86K miles @ £1595.
Not sure if there is anything wrong with it though
And the colour may not be to some peoples likings.
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201233481864820/sort/default/usedcars/model/sirion/make/daihatsu/onesearchad/used/onesearchad/nearlynew/onesearchad/new/page/1/postcode/st119lz/radius/1500?logcode=p
and one just over in black with 83K on the clock:
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201234482736951/sort/default/usedcars/model/sirion/make/daihatsu/onesearchad/used/onesearchad/nearlynew/onesearchad/new/postcode/st119lz/page/2/radius/1500?logcode=p
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'12' Plate Mazda MX-5 2.0 litre NC 3.5 Venture Roadster 160BHP
'15' Plate SEAT LEON 184 FR TDI. 240BHP/500nm Torque.
Past: '53' Plate Yellow YRV Turbo Approx. 150BHP
Yeah not my cup of tea. I
Yeah not my cup of tea. I just don't like the the styling of them. Every Daihatsu since the YRV/Sirion Mk1 has too much Toyota influence.
The Cuore L701 was my preferance as it's a really popular "JDM" kei car at the moment in Japan for styling mods.
http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn286/suezzans/l7-2.jpg
http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn286/suezzans/l7-3.jpg
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=3176865053187&set=o.346957125351556&type=3&theater