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Hi
Recently bought a 2001 Fourtrak fieldman TDS. Changed the oil the other day and discovered that the fabric sheet stuck to the sump guard was literally saturated with oil. Not a big issue, but then discovered a rather dodgy looking rubber seal that had been used to seal the sump plug.
Discovered the reason for all this when I tried to fit a new washer of the recommended type. Basically it would just not seal, and the oil kept leaking. I torqued it gently to what it recommends in the book, and then torqued it higher but still no seal. Tried a good old copper washer and had exactly same problem with that.
So, drained the (new) oil again and had a close look. It seems that there are 3 indentations in the face of the sump just where the washer is supposed to seal, but they effectively stop the seal from being oil-tight! The only thing they could be I think is spot welds holding the threaded section onto the back (i.e. inside the sump).
After some colourful language I came up with the solution of removing the sump and carefully re-facing the whole area around the plug opening with a file to make it flat so that it would seal. Took a while and removed quite a lot of material although the sump seems quite thick here anyway.
It worked and now it seals up a treat.
Just wondered if anybody else had experienced this as it is unlikely to be a one off. Anyway, if you do have this problem, now you know the answer. I can't believe the main dealerships hadn't sorted it under warranty during one of it's dealer services in the past. There has clearly been a lot of oil leaks in the past and people have resorted to using dodgy looking rubber washers that I doubt would have lasted very long.
Well Bunged
Yes, encountered this problem many times, the problem is in fact the spot welds as you suggest, sealing them is fairly simple.
Instead of using the washers specified, use a "bonded seal" these are used on hydraulic systems, obtain these from suppliers of hydraulic fittings. Bonded seals are simply a laminate of a soft metal, and a neoprene layer, these compress onto irregular surfaces when tightened, and expand sideways also.
Use thread tape around the threads of the bung also, this prevents oil seeping down the threads, and is a belts and braces fix.