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Hi.
I have a YRV Premium 2001 model with a misfire,started about two weeks ago misfire then flashing engine light. Drove it to my local garage who said a diagnostic check showed misfire on number 4.
To cut a long story short the following has taken place.
Full plug replacement.
Number four injector replaced.
Coils checked.
Wiring checked.
Car was running fine now and has covered 300 miles,then misfire started again. Back to garage,wiring round the igniter box checked car running ok but after 13 miles back came the misfire,drove a further 15 miles and misfire cleared,all was ok for a further 30 miles and guess what! yes misfire was back and is still with me.
So if anybody has experianced the same and can help I would be very gratefull.
DeJa-Vu!!! This guy has had
DeJa-Vu!!!
This guy has had this on his Terios:
http://www.daihatsu-drivers.co.uk/node/13794
Apparrently a bare wire and removal of the engine cover solved his problem. The Terios he has I presume is the same engine as the YRV (K3-VE)?
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'12' Plate Mazda MX-5 2.0 litre NC 3.5 Venture Roadster 160BHP
'15' Plate SEAT LEON 184 FR TDI. 240BHP/500nm Torque.
Past: '53' Plate Yellow YRV Turbo Approx. 150BHP
Question
The term "igniter box" means what? I am confused as to what is being referred to. I am sure I have never had one on any car I owned - perhaps it is a performance modification. If it is then I am still in the dark.
Let me know.
Ta.
Igniter box
It's the little black box on the right hand side of the head.
Thanks for nothing
Cookieman996,
"It's the little black box on the right hand side of the head". Good effort, that's really clarified things.
That reply is akin to saying the headlights are the shiny bits at the front. You want others to give you assistance but you can't reciprocate. Well done.
My suspicion is you actually don't know and are just quoting technical terms you know nothing about. If you don't know just ask like I did.
Regards
Agree it was a poor
Agree it was a poor effort,and yes I was quoting a technical term which is what the garage used when speaking to me over the phone.
The first garage also informed me that in there view this part was the problem and pointed the problem part out to me but that was over a month ago.
Unfortunately the second garage is some distance away but I will pay them a visit and get a more accurate description before I re-post.
Your suspicion that I don't know and know nothing about are spot on. Thats why it's in the garage
Technical Diagrams
Hi Cookieman,
Its Worth investing in a technical manual as it would save you time and money taking it to a garage to spend on Labour costs.
Someone on here should be able to help you out to precure this item. Its a very useful item to own as you can can a look at useful parts on the car.
Good luck with resolving your issue
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'12' Plate Mazda MX-5 2.0 litre NC 3.5 Venture Roadster 160BHP
'15' Plate SEAT LEON 184 FR TDI. 240BHP/500nm Torque.
Past: '53' Plate Yellow YRV Turbo Approx. 150BHP
Maybe a technical diagram is needed for your understanding
Getgripped,
I noticed you own both a Sirion and Materia. I am betting both of your cars has this item in the engine bay. It is a device which is connected up to the Coil Packs.
History lesson; back in the good old days of engines, you had spark plug leads and a distributor. In the here and now it's all coil packs and engine computers and parts in-between.
Here are some recommendations:
1).. Invest in some technical manuals for your cars engines to get a better understanding


2).. We are all learning about our cars here, give people some leeway
3).. Try to give some people the benefit of the doubt at whats been said. And give better constructive criticism. You wouldnt want people to be defensive and non-helpful if something happened to one of your cars and you needed help and advise on here would you?
I am still learning about my engine, and luckily the helpful people on this community have helped me sort out my issues with my mis-firing. It doesnt help reading your comments on this, as to me it sounds like you are being a right so-and-so....
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'12' Plate Mazda MX-5 2.0 litre NC 3.5 Venture Roadster 160BHP
'15' Plate SEAT LEON 184 FR TDI. 240BHP/500nm Torque.
Past: '53' Plate Yellow YRV Turbo Approx. 150BHP
Patronisation indeed
Jpor,
You posted, now I have the right of reply. That's how it works.
I asked a question out of genuine interest and the answer I got was an insult to intelligence, and remember I have that right of reply and that reply will reflect the post I read. Getting something incorrect will get a response. Saying something dumb will get a response. Saying something genuinely helpful and well presented will also get a response. I have seen a post on here claiming “my vehicle has a squeak” (paraphrased) and I responded in kind. If people want to think out loud that is fine but expect a response in kind. My advice is do your thinking before writing.
Yes you are correct that we are "all learning" which is why I asked the question, what is it that people refer to as an "igniter box". And even you with your lengthy sentimental post has not answered the question directly but rather you have become vague and tried to appear knowledgeable and superior. So come on what is an “igniter box”.
I may be blunt or brusque but I don't insult people with patronisation as you have. My responses are honest and as technically correct as I can make them. You must be a genius coming up with those recommendations and in reply I suggest you do some checking up on your history and technical knowledge of ignition systems instead of correcting me. You only have half the story. You will also lose that bet as to whether my cars have an “igniter box”.
I do have manuals for my vehicles incidentally. I take the time to educate myself and learn.
You say “I am learning about my engine”. Well I can tell you you won't get it right with vague colloquialisms such as “igniter box”. I am fairly certain I do know now what people are talking about since I originally read this post (I have had some time to think) but it goes by a proper technical name. And in that name lies the clue as to what its function is. If it is what I think people are blagging on about my bet is it isn't the source of the problem. I am not saying it isn't but by knowing what it is, what it does, and how it works tells me it is way down the list of suspects for a misfire problem.
Incidentally cookieman996 needs to go back to the first garage and demand his money back because the fault has come back. If the garage refuses and stands by their diagnosis he then needs to apply for a warranty claim on the parts because they then must be faulty. Either way the garage has blagged him out of money under false pretences. And Jpor, that is an example of sound and accurate advice, which is what you advocate.
Regards
You have replied
You do have the right to reply
Will leave it at that...
Oh I think you left your shovel and a big hole somewhere too as well as a sense of humour
Also when you ask a question you supposed to put a
at the end as well
noticed you like correcting grammar on posts
So not sure if you were asking me questions in your last reply or not?
To get back on topic. I dont see anywhere, that you mentioned to cookieman about taking his car back to get a refund due to not sorting out his problem. Might be something to consider Cookieman
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'12' Plate Mazda MX-5 2.0 litre NC 3.5 Venture Roadster 160BHP
'15' Plate SEAT LEON 184 FR TDI. 240BHP/500nm Torque.
Past: '53' Plate Yellow YRV Turbo Approx. 150BHP
Well as I have got a slight
Well as I have got a slight misfire at the moment, did a bot of digging and saw this which may help you:
http://www.daihatsu-drivers.co.uk/node/16342
Problem on this was a clogged fuel Injector
Going to do a bit more research on mine such as Spark Plug gaps etc..
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'12' Plate Mazda MX-5 2.0 litre NC 3.5 Venture Roadster 160BHP
'15' Plate SEAT LEON 184 FR TDI. 240BHP/500nm Torque.
Past: '53' Plate Yellow YRV Turbo Approx. 150BHP
Update on misfire
Well just thought I would post an update regarding my post above.Taken the car to another garage for a second apinion,after exhausting all checks their view is a faulty igniter box.
So I am looking for second hand igniter box. If anybody out there can help with my mission I would be very Grateful.
Regards
Interesting you are saying
Interesting you are saying that. I believe volverine mentioned this to me also when I had my misfire. A mate of his took his apart and found some corroded connections after getting a misfire, I believe it is easy enough to do, and all he did was clean those connectors.
Worth a try rather than buy a new box.
Your best bet is to contact some sellers on eBay breaking YRVs for prices on a box. There are a couple being broken up at the moment.
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'12' Plate Mazda MX-5 2.0 litre NC 3.5 Venture Roadster 160BHP
'15' Plate SEAT LEON 184 FR TDI. 240BHP/500nm Torque.
Past: '53' Plate Yellow YRV Turbo Approx. 150BHP
YRV Misfire-troublesome little black box (Ignition Amplifier)
Hi Members/Guests.
Collected my car last Thursday after having a second hand ignition amplifier fitted,car has since covered 150 miles and has run like a dream.In my original post I stated that my misfire cleared for some 300 miles and then reappeared so I am not jumping for joy just yet but fingers crossed.
Thanks to BobF and jpor for their help and constructive comments.
Best Regards.
cookieman996
That's excellent news
Good stuff, let's hope it has now sorted this out for good
at least our knowledge is increasing everyday with fixes to issues we are finding.
Happy motoring
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'12' Plate Mazda MX-5 2.0 litre NC 3.5 Venture Roadster 160BHP
'15' Plate SEAT LEON 184 FR TDI. 240BHP/500nm Torque.
Past: '53' Plate Yellow YRV Turbo Approx. 150BHP